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Thoughts on the constitution

Rant r/TeenGovernment u/Bob-The15th posted 2025-12-21 22:08 UTC ↑2 · 100% 4 comments ✎ edited 2025-12-21 22:44 UTC
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Constitution (draft) here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TeenGovernment/comments/1pj4pqu/constitution/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeenGovernment/comments/1pj4pqu/constitution/)

I am sure I made some errors, feel free to correct them

First thoughts, it should seriously be pinned, not buried in the rules.

How is article XV of section 1 used? Does society mean anyone or the government in this context?

Section 2: shouldn't the legislative branch get larger if the community grows?

How does no confidence work in section 2 article II? Shouldn't it require a supermajority? Couldn't it be abused by a party with a simple majority to remove enemies and create a supermajority?

section 3 article II ? Shouldn't a super majority be enough to overule the veto? It likely will almost never be overruled AND WHY IS IT EASIER TO IMPEACH TO PASS A BILL THAN OVERRIDING A VETO????

Section 3 article V: see above

Questions Section 3 article III: what majority is needed to engage this? If it is the maximum concurrent time than could an emergency be declared again immediately after? Will talk more in the section about moderation as the emergency power is temporary mod powers

Section 3 article IV: the president being able to commit crimes for something as vague as "the greater good" will either lead to rampant abuse or nobody doing it out of fear of punishment. What does automatically removed mean? Can they run again?

Section 3 article V: tying into the last part if a criminal president is removed and they are still eligible, could they not immediately remove the interim president as stated in the order of succession? As it does not state anywhere they are permanently ineligible or even temporary ineligible, simply removed, no "you can't be eligible president until the next election or another certain amount of time or ever"

Section 4: if the supreme court "shall stop what is against the constitution" if someone is against the constitution must they stop them,  so if someone wanted the replacement the constitution or even parts of it could they be interpreted as against the constitution? And how would they stop it?

Section 4 article V: Since the Judge being charged cannot be part of a jury against them what happens in a tie?

Article VI section 4: this could also create ties

Section 5: there should be a means to remove a moderator

Section 5 mainly article 3 and Section 3 article 3: if all moderator rules must be followed, as there is nothing stating a temporary mod operates otherwise, during emergency powers the president cannot have political views or get reelected in election season.

Section 6 article 3: there should be a pinned post to the wiki

Final thoughts: definitely an improvement, very glaring issues though.

Feel free to correct any misteaks made.

2 comments

Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 22:10 UTC  ↑1  OP
Also I'll be busy for a bit, will be back to see replies later.
AltDetom555555b  2025-12-21 22:18 UTC  ↑2
Just a note from the constitution guy: this **was** the 1st draft. I am currently drafting the 4th. Getting suggestions from the Council GC, reddit posts I may not see, discord messages I forget to check and people just starting to think that something is in the Constitution while it never was and may never be (like the VP) is really getting hard to manage. Fortunately I shouldn’t be very busy next week and I may be able to work on the 4th draft.
Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 22:27 UTC  ↑1  OP
I see, it is in the rules so it can give that impression, I hope these thoughts are kept in mind so that any issues can be ironed out.
Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 22:30 UTC  ↑1  OP
Wait so which set of rules are currently in effect?
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