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Why section 5 of the presidential rules is quite possibly the most loophole filled provision I have seen.

Rant r/TeenGovernment u/Bob-The15th posted 2025-12-21 19:45 UTC ↑10 · 92% 11 comments
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The rules state that the president can declare a state of emergency, and they can make decisions without council. The obvious safeguard is that council can overrule these decisions. But what is a decision? It is not stated, meaning that, if I understand correctly, the president could decide council cannot overturn decisions, cannot call no confidence, and theoretically the president could abolish democracy entirely. There is nothing preventing the president from touching the constitution. Additionally, to my knowledge, though council can overrule decisions they do not have a clear route to end a presidential state of emergency. A president could also declare their political rivals a threat and therefore possibly inflict punishments in a state of emergency.

There should be, at the very least, restrictions preventing the president from touching the constitution in a self declared emergency, and from doing actions against members of legislature and any other important positions in self declared emergencies. There should be restrictions against attacking political rivals via a self declared emergency as well. 

4 comments

Ok-Clothes201  2025-12-21 19:50 UTC  ↑9
This combined with the ability for the president to ban anyone on a whim seems like it could be disastrous
Such_Box1468  2025-12-21 20:57 UTC  ↑2
I thought those powers would be good to give the judges and the president would then ban them. Why would the president have that power
[deleted]  2025-12-21 20:57 UTC  ↑2
I thought those powers would be good to give the judges and the president would then ban them. Why would the president have that power
AltDetom555555b  2025-12-21 19:59 UTC  ↑5
Donwory, constitution should solve this
Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 20:01 UTC  ↑3  OP
In what way? Is a new constitution being worked on?
AltDetom555555b  2025-12-21 20:02 UTC  ↑6
Iirc, the constitution states that the Council decides when there is an emergency and there is a 7 day limit (3+4 days actually)
Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 20:07 UTC  ↑2  OP
Shouldn't the rules be revised to show this, as it states the president can declare an emergency? Also if it has restrictions on what can be done that should also be clear in the rules.
Bob-The15th  2025-12-21 20:19 UTC  ↑1  OP
After looking over the constitution I noticed it grants mod privileges as the emergency powers, does that mean that a president with emergency powers must operate under all rules stated in the constitution?
BialyFromHell  2025-12-21 20:48 UTC  ↑2
Rules haven’t been updated to conform with Constitution
Due_Camel6262  2025-12-21 21:00 UTC  ↑2
rules will be updated to conform with the constitution when its finished
MinecraftGuy7401  2025-12-22 15:41 UTC  ↑1
I thought it was already finished?
Due_Camel6262  2025-12-22 15:41 UTC  ↑1
not yer
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